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Some general mobility observations and resources for Gatlinburg.
Originally published September 6, 2107
Some general mobility observations or how to navigate Gatlinburg with a handicap.
I tried to find everything I could before we went to Gatlinburg about what was and what wasn't scooter friendly.
My husband can walk short distances, and he did use his walking stick in restaurants, although he could have driven to the table in many of them as well.
Here is a quick list of resources. I'm going to be posting more in-depth posts on the area as well:
HIKING RESOURCES:
http://www.cabinsforyou.com/blog/advice/stroller-friendly-trails-in-the-smokies.htm (what works for strollers often works for scooters.)
http://www.yoursmokies.com/handicappedaccessiblegsmnptrails.html
https://www.nps.gov/grsm/planyourvisit/accessibility.htm
PLACE TO ASK QUESTIONS OF LOCALS:
https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowForum-g60842-i150-Gatlinburg_Tennessee.html
REVIEWS OF LOCAL AREA
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Tourism-g60842-Gatlinburg_Tennessee-Vacations.html
Originally posted on December 31, 2017
We'll have other posts on our search for a lift for the Triad 750 CSX. We looked at Harmar and the Armstrong lifts. Both of these companies have great solutions that we will go into later.
After a lot of searching, my husband chose the Bruno Joey lift because we live in New England, he needed an inside the car solution, and he wanted something that he could just drive on or wheel on. We went to the Boston Abilities Expo and saw complete conversion vans, which don't allow for AWD. But in the parking lot, we saw an older model Bruno lift. The owner of the lift had a van and we were able to put the Triad on the lift with a little manuevering. We took pictures lots of pictures because if we purchased one, we wanted to make sure it would fit.
We now knew what type of lift we wanted, but we needed a car that could accommodate it. We decided on purchasing a 2017 Toyota Sienna. With a new purchase, we would get $1,000 back on a lift and installation direct from Toyota, which we definitely were going to need. We'll have another post on the complete ins and outs of this decision.
It seems that Bruno has changed how the Bruno Joey works compared to the one we saw in the parking lot of the Boston Abilities Expo. The lift just comes straight out and straight down, and the platform is slightly smaller. We met the Mobility Works folks at the Expo and talked to their NH office. Aaron Morse was assigned to work with us and our unorthodox mobility scooter. He thought it could work, even with the new design.
We made a complete video so you can see how it operates.
First published September 6, 2017
Our first vacation lodging with a scooter was in Gatlinburg at Gatlinburg Town Square. The underground garage, elevator, proximity to downtown, and a large room made it a great choice.
Gatlinburg was going to be the first long stay vacation with our new scooter. I wanted the place to be perfect for my husband so he would travel more. I went to Trip Advisor and read everything I could on the resort, including any mobility info I could find on the Gatlinburg area in the forums.
SCOOTER FIT: The Triad 750 CSX, which we just received the week before we left, is 45 inches long and 29 inches wide. It fit in the elevator, climbed the hill from the Parkway (a business and attraction strip in downtown Gatlinburg) to the Town Square just fine, fit in the kitchen, and we LOVED the covered parking so it made it easy to bring the scooter in and out of the car no matter what the weather. (As a temporary measure, we used two pet ramps to get the scooter in and out. The scooter weighs 77 lbs. without the seat. We kept the seat on, but he walked the scooter up the pet ramps into the car with the steering column folded but power still getting it up the ramps.)
Because of the scooter, we could easily get a room far from the elevator. The parking garage elevator went to any floor.
ROOM SIZE: The hotel was perfect. We had a two-bedroom suite just for my husband and me. (My mother was supposed to come but didn't. We would have had to put the Thule on top to fit the luggage with her in the car and the scooter.) We were on the third floor Creekside. Views from the private balcony were gorgeous.
How you view the hotel may depend on what size room you get. I had first reserved a studio, but then mom was going to come. I'm glad that we got the larger room. A one bedroom would have been just fine, but for a week's stay, the studio would have been too small for us.
Hubby could just drive right in and park.
Our view from the balcony was great.
PARKING GARAGE: We were at the resort during a VERY busy sold out weekend and a much less full weekday period. We come from the Boston area, so small parking garages aren't new to us. We were able to get a spot at all times for us to unload the scooter--but not handicapped spots. But with the scooter, we didn't need a handicapped spot. In fact, we never parked in a handicapped spot. My husband could just buzz through the garage and over to the elevator. Without that, I would have had to drop him off and then found parking. We also would have to have asked for a room by the elevator. With the scooter, we were WAY back into the woods, which was just great.
No problem navigating the parking garage.
POOL: We also went to the outdoor pool and hubby parked his scooter and relaxed. The pool was small but fine for us. There was one hot tub, but it was occupied when we went to the pool.
AREA ATTRACTIONS VISITED:
We spent a lot of our time in the Smoky Mountains--tooling around Newfound Gap, Clingman's Dome, and the Sugarlands Visitor Center--plus visiting Biltmore Estates, taking a Smoky Mountain Carolina Shine Train ride, seeing the Titanic Museum, cruising the strip, etc. The location of the Gatlinburg Town Square was perfect for this. We also purchased a Gatlinburg-made walking stick for hubby to use (he won't use a cane, but this stick is super sexy.)
GETTING TO THE DOWNTOWN STRIP:
We didn't drive in our car to the strip, we walked to the strip. This is where the scooter really shone. With the CSX disk brakes, it made it down and up the grade just fine. We could also just drive the scooter out by the game area to the street and didn't have to go through the parking garage.
TRAFFIC Use Google Maps to get around any traffic while you are in Gatlinburg. There are back ways to get to the hotel. We arrived Friday evening, but had no traffic because we went through I40 Asheville to Cosby versus going through Pigeon Forge. (We had to make Google Maps do this for us, but it was SO worth it. Stress free driving! My husband would have hated the entire vacation if he was always stuck in traffic.)
I will always remember Gatlinburg. We had a great time, and it forced us to find mobility solutions that will work for years to come.
HOW WE RESERVED: (For the record, we are Marriott owners and traded through Interval International for our room. I had purchased the retrade option too, which worked out for us in the long run. We much preferred the larger unit.)
COUNTER TO SOME OTHER REVIEWS I READ:
Things we had NO problem with that others had written about: WIFI was great, hot water was great, mattress/bed was awesome, pool water was warm, we heard no noise from the other rooms. They don't have the ice makers hooked up, but they deliver full bags of ice to your room. LOVED the ice!
DOWNSIDES:
Things I would have personally changed: lighting. The lighting was adequate in the one-bedroom side where we stayed, but the bulbs were the yellow type bulbs. I also didn't like the fluorescent in the kitchen, but hubby liked it. In the studio section of our suite, the fan/light was wobbly if you had it at a high speed, but we didn't even use the studio side. The studio side only had one small window too so you would notice poor lighting more. Lighting is one of those funny things. If it is good, you don't notice it, but if it isn't what you like, you do notice it fast.
FINAL RATING: I gave it four stars instead of five because it isn't Marriott timeshare quality, lighting, and some of the layout is funky, but it is PERFECT for Gatlinburg! I would definitely stay there again.
Originally Published September 4, 2017
The winters in New England can be brutal.
Yes, this is our driveway. There is a Ford E-350 van buried behind that pile.
Yes, that is a Subaru Outback buried in snow in the background of Chris's smiling face..
While we have a long time before we retire, we have started to take trips to places that might be a possibility. TN has been on our radar because of the beauty, low taxes, cosmopolitan areas, music and more. We checked out the Nashville area in the past, but we wanted to check out eastern TN. Combining a vacation and location scouting seemed perfect. We own a Marriott timeshare, but Marriott doesn't have any timeshares in TN at all, so we traded for one in Gatlinburg that would meet our needs. However, how could we do this trip without a scooter even though he has a handicapped placard? And how could I get my husband to even look at a scooter after he hated the traditional scooter he tried at Disney?
SCOOTER DECISIONS: I looked at renting a normal scooter up here in Boston (wouldn't fit in our Subaru Crosstrek) or renting one at Maypops on the strip in downtown Gatlinburg.
Renting one down there meant renting one like they have at Disney. My husband hated the scooters at Disney. Too low and too big (we wouldn't be able to get one into our car to visit the sites. Plus, there were big hills and teeny scooters just wouldn't work for the inclines) So, after extensive research and disregarding the advice to automatically discount three-wheel scooters that I found on many sites, I found the Triad brand of scooters. It was a revelation to me. THIS, THIS TRIAD scooter I could show him and it might appeal to him.
This scooter was ONE SEXY SCOOTER!
And hubby agreed, it was ONE SEXY SCOOTER. Eureka!
What's more, it could fit in our Subaru Crosstrek, go up the hills of Gatlinburg, and fit in an elevator!
My husband knew that in order to do this trip, he needed help, and this fit the bill. We had two months to get the scooter, figure out how to get it into our car, and go!
But which model of Triad scooter?
THE MODEL DECISION PROCESS
We reached out to Triad to see if there was a dealer in our area. There wasn't, but there WAS someone signed up for the Triad Friends program in Salem, MA. Triad reached out to her and she said "yes" to sharing her email and phone. We got in touch with Joanne (thanks so much, Joanne!), and it helped immensely with our decision. My husband and I went over one spring day and she let my husband graciously try her SF model.
The SF model has a hump in the middle of it. My husband has drop foot so it was difficult for him to lift his leg up. This made our decision easy. At the time, Triad had an XL model (now discontinued?), and the SF and SF2 models. The CSX model wasn't even on the website. When I emailed Triad saying we would like to buy one, they gave us the specs for the CSX. We were immediately hooked on the CSX. (Of course, my husband also purchased the Subaru Crosstrek so he likes good looking compact crossovers.) We tried to patiently wait for it. (Please be advised that it can take weeks for delivery, so if you decide to get one and you don't have a dealer, there will be a time when you patiently try to count down the days.)
THE WAIT AND NEW FRIENDS:
If you don't know it, Triad has a facebook page. I scoured that page, and Triad reposted something from one of their dealers about a lift. Since we were trying to figure out how to get the scooter down to Gatlinburg, I sent them a message and a friendship with Jeff and Missy from Tri Electric Scooters was born. Jeff sent me recommendations on how to augment our scooter with after market parts, and you will see some of those recommendations on the parts page. Feel free to chime in with comments there as well.
SCOOTER FIT: The Triad 750 CSX, which we received the week before we left, was 45 inches long and 29 inches wide.
It totally changed our trip for the better. We have further posts in our travel section.
The Triad driving past a sea of traditional scooters that are available to rent from Maypops on the strip in Gatlinburg, TN. Notice the seat height of the Triad.
I read every mobility review I could of the Biltmore Estates before we went. This was our first real “let’s buy a ticket” outing with the Triad 750 CSX that we had just purchased and had delivered the week before.
Biltmore Estate is an 8,000-acre estate that was built during the gilded age by the Vanderbilt family. It is still owned by Vanderbilt descendants. So many famous names helped construct this masterpiece nestled in Asheville, NC and the Blue Ridge Mountains.
WHEN TO GO Holidays are going to be the most crowded. This is when they get most of their traffic. We went the Tuesday AFTER Memorial Day weekend and it was lovely.
DISABILITY TICKETS We got the cheaper disability tickets. You have to call to purchase them or purchase them at the Biltmore. They are cheaper because you can only see the first and second floors with a scooter. You can't see the basement or the third floors. They have a movie with pictures of these areas, but, if you purchase the optional audio tour, the movie has no real explanation of the rooms like the audio tour does. It would be ideal if they had an alternate version of the movie that included the audio tour if you purchased it. (And do purchase it even for the first two floors. We each purchased our own copy. The recorders hang around your neck.)
IMPORTANT SCOOTER DIMENSIONS We used a Triad 750 CSX to go through the house, eating areas, and winery. Please take note, the dimensions of the Triad 750 CSX are 29 inches wide and 45 inches long. If your scooter is wider than this, it probably won't fit in the doorway from the outside ramp. I have a picture of the clearance. It might not fit in the elevator either depending on length. I have another picture to show that.
HOW TO GET THERE We have a disability placard. We were able to be passed through all the parking attendants to the main building itself. The main building has a drop off area by the handicapped ramp on the left-hand side of the building if you are looking straight at the main building. I dropped hubby off with the scooter, and then I parked in the lot closest to the main building. They have lots of handicapped slots there, but they also have nonhandicapped parking. I was able to walk a quick five minutes back to the main building. You could also wait for a shuttle. It was a nice day so I walked.
SCOOTER IN THE MAIN BUILDING Hubby was able to get into the main building with about an inch or ½-inch clearance. We then enjoyed the first two floors. We used the original elevator to the building, which requires the attendant to work the elevator from the inside. All three of us managed to fit in, but it was tight. The elevator was called the bird cage and it was beautiful.
The standard ramp to get up to the Biltmore.
The Triad CSX just fits. I don't know if a larger scooter could get through.
It was a tight fit, but all three of us, the attendant, hubby and I fit in the elevator. This is one perk for having mobility issues.
THE STABLES After the main building, we ate at the Stables. There is a brick floor in the courtyard. If you have mobility issues, this might be a problem for you. It was wonderful with the scooter. He was so relieved that he could navigate this with ease. Before he had a scooter and would try to walk things like this, he couldn't.
Navigating the uneven bricks was a breeze.
WINERY AREA I then retrieved the car by using the shuttle, and we went to the winery area. If you don't have a motorized scooter and you park in the regular handicapped parking area, you better be in shape if you are pushing a manual wheelchair. A mother and daughter were having a hard time getting up the long winding ramp to the main area, and then they had more problems getting up the second ramp to the winery. I looked around after seeing their problems, and it seemed that there was a handicapped drop off at least to the main area, but it you don't know it is there, it would be hard to spot it. They hadn't. My husband's scooter had no problem with the ramps, the winery (including the wine tasting room) or the wine shop.
Navigating the Biltmore wine store wasn't a problem. We purchased three bottles. The basket was handy for that.
Hubby preferred to stand. The scooter wasn't far away though.
We had fun tasting! They also serve little crackers to clear the palette.
THE UPSHOT These dry facts, while important, don't talk about the magnificence of this place. The architecture, the views, the artwork by Durer and John Singer Sargent. This place is a museum of the highest caliber. My husband and I really enjoyed it.
A FEW OTHER ITEMS OF INTEREST There is a land tour that you can take that goes on a bus. Sign up for it beforehand if you want to go. It was full so we couldn’t get on it. (I called in the morning and there was space. I should have booked it then.) There is also a Segway tour. I wanted to see if we could go on the Segway tour and have hubby on his Triad, but they said, “no go.” (Hubby likes the stability of the Triad Scooter. He didn’t even want to try a Segway. I’ll have another post about this.)
http://www.biltmore.com/visit/visitor-information/estate-accessibility
Originally published September 22, 2017
I should have written this post first thing after we got back last week, but things have been busy around here.
This was our first time going to an Abilities Expo. We went for two days. It was held at the Boston Convention Center. Besides the fact that Google Maps had us going totally AROUND the convention center, and I should have printed out the paper registration papter in order to get in, things went smoothly. We learned a lot.
Toyota was there and they showcased different ramps with their Sienna's. Since ramps that come out from the van take up any space that could be used by AWD, those ramps were not of interest to us. (See this post for reference on New England winters.)
I didn't get a pic of the ramps for the Pacifica by Braunability, but if I remember correctly, that one was the widest of the three we tried.
We did find one other scooter that could be put in the category of "sexy scooter." It was from a company in Israel. Weight limit was 220, the grade that it could climb was nowhere near what the Triad 750 CSX could climb, but it certainly was portable. And for a scooter with no height, it had design appeal. It was called Atto by Moving Life. Hubby took it for a spin.
The upshot for us around looking at vehicles, etc. is that we decided that we wouldn't get a ramp, we would get a lift. There were two vendors there, Mobility Works and a Bruno Lift dealer that was at the Braunability booth. We have done research on trucks and cars since then, and we "may" have a plan. We'll let you know later on this weekend.
Originally published April 18, 2018
Sorry it has been so long since I posted. We actually went to Disney World in January and stayed at the Marriott Sabal Palms, right behind the World Center Marriott. This was the first time we traveled to Disney with the Triad 3-wheeled scooter, and my husband couldn't have been a happier camper.